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tblack
03-14-2009, 04:33 PM
As most of you already know I am a huge fan of the Freak barrels. Lately there has been a lot of variations released for the Freak. I have owned or own almost all of them. I recently decided to compare all the variations in my possession using the same paint, insert, weather conditions and distances. Here was my result of 5 variations.

Keep in mind that all ratings are in relevance to each other as almost all Freak barrels shoot awesome. I will assess them on a scale from 1 to 5 with 1 being the worse and in 4 categories. Accuracy, weight, how quiet it is, and ability to self clean.
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Stock Freak kit-
Accuracy 3/5, weight 3/5, quiet 3/5, and self cleaning 3/5.
This is a good base line from which to evaluate all other Freak variations.
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Freak back w/ All American tip-
Accuracy 3/5, weight 3/5, quiet 4/5, and self cleaning 4/5.
A good barrel but a marginal upgrade from stock.
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Freak back w/ Apex tip (Apex off)-
Accuracy 3/5, weight 2/5, quiet, 2/5 and self cleaning 2/5.
This is the worse performing barrel of the bunch. However it is still hand over fist better than a one piece barrel. And it has a nasty bonus. That is the Apex's legendary distance and ability to adjust its curve. But If you get a barrel break the Apex doesn't do a great job of self cleaning.
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Freak back w/ Stiffi CF (carbon fiber) front-
Accuracy 5/5, weight 4/5, quiet 4/5 and self cleaning 5/5.
This is an awesome Freak barrel variation. The only problem I have with this is that it can not be cleaned with a battle swab. The fibers in the swab will snag on the Carbon fiber in the Stiffi tip. And at $60 dollars for the tip alone it might not be the best option.
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Deadly Winds CF 14" w/ freak insert-
Accuracy 5/5, weight 5/5, quiet 5/5, and self cleaning 5/5.
This is by far the best performing of all the freak variations. But at $90 for the barrel alone you get what you pay for. It delivers.
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White Wolf Airsmithing WWA 1.5 front-
Accuracy 1/5, weight 4/5, quiet 1/5, and self cleaning 4/5
This is by far the worst performing of the freak tips. Its length makes it very loud and not as accurate as its counterparts. But it is by far the shortest of the freak variations and is a good choice for CQB play.
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Freak back w/ Hammerhead Sharks Tooth barrel and adapter-
Accuracy 5/5, weight 1/5, quiet 2/5, and self cleaning *4/5.
It's weight is its achilles heel. Its equal to weight with most one pc. barrels. It is loud for a freak barrel as it has no porting. *Its average as far as self cleaning. But its upside is awesome. *It shoots through breaks very well as it puts a flat spin on the ball allowing it to be unaffected despite some paint in the inside rifling. The same spin helps it hold course in harder winds. Undecided weather the spin adds any distance to your shot however. But it is as accurate as any I have shot. On par with the Deadly Winds CF barrel or maybe a little better given its ability to slice through wind. And has a hard edgy milsim look.
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Note, I had to simulate a barrel breaks in all the above mentioned barrels as I could not get any of them to break paint.
(Ratings may change as new Freak variations come out. As all above ratings are relevant to each other as well as any new releases for Freak barrels.)

tblack
03-14-2009, 04:45 PM
Break down of barrels in ranking order per attributes.
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Accuracy

1) Freak back w/ Hammerhead Sharks Tooth and adapter. (because of it's ability to shoot through wind)
2) Deadly Winds CF w/ freak insert
3) Freak back w/ Stiffi CF front
(Top 3 Shoot very similar)
4) Freak back w/ All American tip
5) Stock Freak Kit
6) Freak back w/ Apex tip
7) Freak back w/ White Wolf Air Smiths WWA 1.5" tip
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Weight

1) Deadly Winds CF w/ Freak insert
2) Freak back w/ White Wolf Air Smiths WWA 1.5" tip
3) Freak back w/ Stiffi CF tip
(big gap)
4) Freak back w/ All American tip
5) Stock freak kit
6) Freak back w/ Apex tip
7) Freak back w/ Hammerhead Sharks Tooth tip and adapter
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Quiet

1) Deadly Winds CF w/ Freak insert
2) Freak back w/ Stiff CF tip
(Top two are very similar)
3) Freak back w/ All American tip
4) Stock Freak kit
5) Freak back w/ Apex tip
6) Freak back w/ Hammerhead Sharks Tooth tip
7) Freak back w/ White Wolf Air Smiths WWA 1.5" tip
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Self Cleaning

1) Deadly Winds CF w/ Freak insert
2) Freak back w/ Stiffi CF tip
3) Freak back w/ White Wolf Air Smiths WWA 1.5" tip
4) Freak back w/ Hammerhead Sharks Tooth and adapter
5) Freak back w/ All American tip
6) Stock Freak kit
7) Freak back w/ Apex tip
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All Around

1) Deadly Winds CF w/ Freak insert
2) Freak back w/ Hammerhead Sharks Tooth and adapter
3) Freak back w/ Stiffi CF tip
4) Freak back w/ All American tip
5) Stock Freak kit
6) Freak back w/ White Wolf Air Smiths 1.5" tip
7) Freak back w/ Apex tip

(All Around rating is giving emphasis to Accuracy and attributes not reflected in the above criteria)

(Ratings may change as new Freak variations come out. As all above ratings are relevant to each other as well as any new releases for Freak barrels.)

PEOG
03-14-2009, 04:50 PM
GREAT writeup. Hopefully this helps people in their quest for the perfect barrel in their minds.

Gadget Soldier
03-14-2009, 08:25 PM
what about a freak back with a sharktooth front with adapter and one of those tactical fronts? :D

PEOG
03-14-2009, 08:27 PM
He probably doesnt have that yet, with all his recent ego purchases, Im surprized he isnt living at the bachelors hotel and eating ramen noodles 3 meals a day....lol

Gadget Soldier
03-14-2009, 08:28 PM
lol I would not doubt that.

tblack
03-14-2009, 08:28 PM
He probably doesnt have that yet, with all his recent ego purchases, Im surprized he isnt living at the bachelors hotel and eating ramen noodles 3 meals a day....lol

Can you get one for me Sideshow. Seriously. I'm having trouble with getting one through my sponsors.

PEOG
03-14-2009, 08:36 PM
Yeah, PM me.

tblack
03-14-2009, 09:46 PM
what about a freak back with a sharktooth front with adapter and one of those tactical fronts? :D

Give me time to get one in and Ill compair it with the rest.

BadRabbit
03-15-2009, 05:00 PM
Is the "stock" configuration considerd the teardrop front? My nephew is using this one and my friend is using the all american front. Both real nice barrels. Im currently using a knockout 10 piece barrel kit, while both my markers are quality markers and I dont get as many breaks with them, I still am really trying to get a freak kit and sell the knockout. Thanks for the write up.

zulu
03-15-2009, 05:19 PM
Worth a "stick." Well done T!

tblack
03-15-2009, 05:26 PM
Yeah, the stock version is the teardrop version that you get in most Freak kits. There is a straight version with no porting but I have yet to get my hands on one. I would love to check it out. I suspect that it will perform the same as the stock tear drop version but only a little louder.


Thanks Zulu.

BadRabbit
03-15-2009, 06:55 PM
If its the same performance but a little louder I'd rather just stick to a ported one personally. My eteks on the louder side as it is.

Nix
03-20-2009, 12:51 PM
I must agree that the Deadly winds barrel is amazing.

I just got mine the other day, and the box it came in weighed more than the actual barrel. It also shoots super accurate. I am really enjoying, and I would recommend it to anyone.

shadow51
03-25-2009, 11:24 AM
Deadlywind 12" MC

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n208/graphic97501/DWbarrel1.jpg

tblack
03-25-2009, 11:27 AM
Is that a fiber carbon? Can't be....

shadow51
03-25-2009, 11:32 AM
Is that a fiber carbon? Can't be....

Yes! Deadlywind Carbon Fibur done with MC liquid imaging.

tblack
03-25-2009, 11:34 AM
That is sweet. I wonder if its louder than the unpainted version as now the tiny poors are covered in paint?

shadow51
03-25-2009, 11:57 AM
That is sweet. I wonder if its louder than the unpainted version as now the tiny poors are covered in paint?

Holes are not coverd at all!

nismo270r
03-26-2009, 05:48 AM
OMG! That's freakin' awesome! Who'd you have do the transfer? Nchittendon? Oooo....That's bad...that's really bad...I can slowly begin to see an Ego ending up MC'd...LOL!

shadow51
03-26-2009, 07:11 AM
OMG! That's freakin' awesome! Who'd you have do the transfer? Nchittendon? Oooo....That's bad...that's really bad...I can slowly begin to see an Ego ending up MC'd...LOL!


Lakota Industries, Inc.
1330 Burnett Drive, Suite F
Xenia, Ohio 45385
LINK: http://www.lakotacorp.com/default.aspx


But (nchittendon) would do a good job also!

I had my whole A5 Tippmann done in MC.

Memnock
03-26-2009, 09:53 PM
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f223/memnockx/DSC00933.jpgtblack I see you have over looked two different fronts. First the 1.5" white wolf snub nose, and the old hammerhead pro tip.

tblack
03-30-2009, 01:17 PM
Memnock, I have updated this thread with the WWA 1.5 tip as I had one laying around the house. I dont think Ill be adding the "old" hammerhead pro tip as its, well like you described. An older tip. Unless one falls into my hands somewhere.

I am still waiting to review the sharkstooth with freak adapter.

Memnock
04-12-2009, 07:29 PM
Any word on the sharkstooth vs. the deadly wind?

tblack
04-12-2009, 07:33 PM
It should be in this week. I have confirmation that it is in the mail. It had shipping problems from the origin supplier at no fault to my dealer.

tblack
04-13-2009, 02:47 PM
I have added the Hammerhead sharks tooth to my write up. It's an awesome barrel but I still prefer the Deadly Winds.

cwest
04-13-2009, 05:38 PM
Nice write up. I really like the freak system as well. Looks lie I have about $90 I need to save up.

Memnock
04-20-2009, 08:00 PM
tblack does the freak insert stick out past the deadly wind? I just purchased one this weekend and noticed that the insert was not flush with the back of the deadly wind barrel is this common?

PEOG
04-20-2009, 08:49 PM
thats not common its supposed to be flush

NrKissed
04-24-2009, 10:24 AM
Some gread info on this thread. I am seriously considering joining the Freak team and investing in a Deadly Wind setup.

Is there a kit out there or am I better off to part one together?

soulcar
04-24-2009, 12:33 PM
I got my Deadly Winds barrle this past Monday and plan on getting my freaks kit in a couple of weeks.

Most likely through Sobe John. If any of you guys don't know who he is, he's a very up front guy who "bend s-over-backwards" for his customers. He desreve everyones respect and business.

Just my 2 cents.

Memnock
04-25-2009, 04:26 PM
Sobe John is a hell of a guy. Had the pleasure of getting a launcher from him.

tblack
04-25-2009, 07:21 PM
SobeJohn is who I look to first. Your right. Great guy to buy from.

etek3owner
12-28-2010, 01:21 AM
you should be able to squeegee through the carbon fiber barrel should you not? i thought that was only an issue for old carbon fiber barrels and if it still is an issue it should be fixed >.>