thinking about getting a geo, what to expect?

[tex_mania]

Im selling my sl74 on the nation in order to pick up a geo... from reading reviews, it seems like i should expect it to perform somewhere between a dm and an ego.

I guess my question is where in between? When i first started getting high ends, o jumped from a spyder to an icd freestyle. That gun was whisper quiet, but finnicky. After that, i only shot dm's and pm's for a couple years. Had a dm and pm 5, a dm and pm 6, and inbetween the 5's and 6's, i tried an ego5. I hated the way it shot... it was loud, and the recoil was alot compared to a matrix. Then i got an ego7. The gun i got isn't quiet, but it shoots pretty smooth, and feels good in my hands. I loved it so much, i got rid of my matrixes and bought an sl74. But my sl shoots identical to my ego7 and doesn"t look as good, so i want to try something different, but not too different. Geos seem to be very popular, more popular than egos... i want to give one a try, but i kinda want to know what to expect.

Efficiency wise, are they as good as egos? Or at least better than matrixes?
i understand they are not quiet, but do they kick less than egos?
Basically, are they like a mix of matrix and ego, or are they something else entirely? Basically, what are the negatives of the geo against an ego, and against a matrix? And what does it do better than each? Guess you could say id like to see a three way comparison test...

Also, do y'all think i'd be able to get one for around $500?

[Big Daddy]

Tex, I can't answer most of your questions because the only electros I have shot are PE markers. However, I do own an Ego8 and a Geo that has been upgraded to be a Geo+. My observations are this : The Geo with stock Shaft 3 kit is quieter than my 08 with a DW barrel, however, it is nowhere near as efficient. Dont ask for specifics. I can only tell you that I had to leave the field in the middle of a Final Battle when shooting the Geo. I have never had to do that with my 08.

As far as discerning kick, I am a longtime real steel shooter, so no marker kicks for me. When you spend a day shooting a 45/70, it s kinda hard to understand how you notice a marker "kick".

Somebody way more knowledgeable than I will chime in here soon. Dont worry.

[Myth]

I didnt find any kick with my Geo2 and i get about 6 pods and a hopper out of mine

[tex_mania]

I understand about the real steel shooter, bd. I do that myself. More of a handgunner, tho. Still, with my matrices, i could set my trigger to just switch return and not have to worry about bounce at all. With the ego, this is not the case. In semi, i can occasionally get it to bounce due to the recoil of the marker.

And how many shots should i be getting off a 68/45? I can usually shoot about 3 bags, it seems, with my ego. If i can shoot two with a geo, i think i'd be happy.

[user1]

You should see 900-1000 shots from a 68 vs the 1200 you get from a good ego.

The first gen geo with the stock bolt was loud like the ego, the gst bolt makes it much better. Add a dw or freak barrel and will be happy with how soft it is.

The feel of the geo is strange if you are a long time ego owner. First it is small and has a flat straight shot vs the lob of the ego. Most that don't like it say they don't like it because they don't "feel" the shot like you do on a ego.

[SoBeJohn]

I am nowhere near breaking in my Geo2 but I can shoot 6 pods and a hopper with mine. it should get more efficient after its fully broken in.. we'll see. but i have no regrets..

[cwest]

I may be hated for saying this but, I actually thought a DM9 shoots nicer than a GEO. I love eclipse markers and own two, both poppets. I don't own the Geo (was not a GEO 2) or DM9. But, have used both for a day of playing (I have a friend that hoards markers and lets us borrow his stuff). I thought the DM9 was much smoother and quieter. The only thing I like about a stock GEO over a stock DM9 is the display. I can't believe Dye charges as much as they do for their guns and they don't include a display instead of blinking LED lights.

[tex_mania]

well, i guess i'm about to see. i sold my sl74, just sent it out today, and i bought a ninja geo that was also shipped out today... so we shall see how i like it when it gets here.

[C Bomb]

I may be hated for saying this but, I actually thought a DM9 shoots nicer than a GEO. I love eclipse markers and own two, both poppets. I don't own the Geo (was not a GEO 2) or DM9. But, have used both for a day of playing (I have a friend that hoards markers and lets us borrow his stuff). I thought the DM9 was much smoother and quieter. The only thing I like about a stock GEO over a stock DM9 is the display. I can't believe Dye charges as much as they do for their guns and they don't include a display instead of blinking LED lights.

I don't think anyone would contest too heavily that the DMs deliver a smoother shot... however, the difference between just taking a DM out for a spin, and owning/keeping one maintained for a season (and having to hunt down that one errant oring out of 16 or so when your DM springs a leak down the barrel) will color ones perception.

The Geo series (in my opinion) is leagues easier to maintain and/or troubleshoot than any incarnation of DM, and that's where it's greatest strength lies. Spoolie valve, with the maintenance and reliability of a poppet.

[cwest]

That is true. However, I own a Proto and love the whole color coded oring thing they do.

[tex_mania]

I used a pm6 for most of 2006 and 7. I never had any problem with it whatsoever. I just lubed the bolt every time i played, and it shot like butter. Had an orange bolt, hybrid bolt guide, lucky ul board, with dm6 wired eyes. I prolly had 70-80 cases or more thru that gun, and never had to replace an o-ring or anything. I only got rid of it because sponsorships had me needing to shoot eclipse.

I had a similar pm5 before that 6, it never gave me any **** either. Idk why people say the maintenance on them is so difficult. Maybe i got lucky with a pair of beastly markers, but i really never had any trouble out of my matrixes.

Of course, all i do with my ego7 is put a drop or two of oil in the ram slot once a month, and go to town on fools... amidoingitrite?

[tex_mania]

Op, sorry for hijacking my own thread, but cwest, what part of MS are you from? Im a southern miss grad, originally from vicksburg. I used to play for UK at apgob in jackson, and then at swat in Ocean Springs. Where do you play?

[cwest]

I'm from the Meridian area. We pretty much only play outlaw. We occasionally go to Tuscaloosa and play at the field there.

[tex_mania]

ah, i got ya. i went to junior college at ECCC. used to play some at parkers in newton, and challenger in meridian. good times.

in any case, :rep4u: for reppin the 'sip. i miss it.

[cwest]

Challenger closed a couple years ago. Too bad, its like 2 miles from my house.

[tex_mania]

that sucks. it was the first public field i played at, back around 2003.... shame to hear it closed, it was a pretty fun place to play woodsball.

[war dawg]

I just might get a new Ego, and Geo when the probate of my dads estate is all worked out. That and a new Ford truck. I'm a Ford guy.

[GWALTINATOR]

Sounds like a plan! Sorry about your dad. :(

[war dawg]

He pastaway in the hospital waiting room while waiting for his girlfriend to get her atteries cleaned.

[user1]

sorry for your loss

[The Nugg]

You get your geo yet? I cant speak too much for the geo, I have a geo2. Its not as smooth as a dm, or as quiet. But its exponentially quieter than most egos around here. I really only notice the recoil when I am ripping on it for an extended period of time (more than a 2-3 second burst, could be Im not used to the feeling of extended firing, I rarely need to lay ropes that big). I dont think you will be dissapointed, but if it does have the + upgrades you may want to jump on that very soon.

[tex_mania]

yes, i got my geo. there are pics in the photo section. and im pretty sure it has the ups.