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Roswell Crash
08-06-2010, 12:24 PM
Hi guy's, I've got a stock EGO 10 in Midnight.

I'm running the Empire Prophecy LTD loader, got the RF chip to install had trouble installing it, can't get it to work (Advice or anyone that can point be to a step by step guide would be great)

What I'm looking for is info in what to upgrade on the Marker to get better performance, I'm looking to complete he Shaft kit on it, I want the other 2 backs and the 16" front.

Is their anything I can do to get better performance from the marker, I have never owned a PE before this is my first, been playing Paintball less then a year and owned the Tippmann X7 first and now have the Phenom.

I love the EGO and it has so many settings, I have just left the at default because I know nothing about them, any suggestions, links to guides would be helpful. I want to get the best out of the marker. I like to be able to shoot straight and far.

DUFF MUFFIN
08-06-2010, 12:33 PM
Don't even worry about the shaft kit, all paint is too small for even the smallest back anyway. Get something with really small sized bores such as something that takes freak inserts or maybe the TechT insert kit.

KILLSWITCH
08-06-2010, 12:36 PM
I love the deadlywinds barrel I bought for mine, I have the shaft 3 kit for my watermelon ego, but when I use the midnight I use the deadlywind, has more bore options than 3 if u get the freak inserts. I think the DW is a slightly better barrel. But other than a barrel I don't think there isn't anything u need to do for upgrades.

Hoot
08-06-2010, 12:44 PM
Yep. They said it. Go with. Deadlywind and freak inserts. Otherwise...no need to upgrade anything
You paid 1250 for a marker so that's not needed. Just look at tuning guides and you'll be good.

tigar19
08-06-2010, 01:47 PM
What they said.

Also, I would wait until you have about 10 cases through it before you start fine tuning your dwell, HPR, and LPR.

Roswell Crash
08-06-2010, 02:19 PM
Done, I found a complete new freak kit on E-bay for £35 & I just bought the 14" Deadlywinds CF Barrel, funny enough I was watching a lot of videos and notice no one was using the stock EGO barrels and I wondered what the little round badge with the blue logo was on the barrels they where using, now I know. It's the Deadlywind.

Thanks for your advice guys, Also all this crap about breaking in the marker I heard, I think that's old hat, I don't think these newer marker require breaking in, do you agree?

I've noticed no difference in the the marker from the day I bought it to the point where I'd ran my 40,000th ball through.

tigar19
08-06-2010, 03:42 PM
Did anyone ever successfully bore out a shaft barrel so it could accept freak inserts?

Best of both worlds!

KILLSWITCH
08-06-2010, 05:18 PM
2 things RC:
1. Egos still have to be "broken in" its kinda like overspray on an x7 its basically the marker getting the excess worn off and running smoother, but unlike an x7 DO NOT polish the internals.

2.I don't think the deadlywind barrel has an oring on it so take the oring off the stock barrel to keep the dw barrel from coming loose while shooting.

DriverJ
08-06-2010, 11:55 PM
Don't even worry about the shaft kit, all paint is too small for even the smallest back anyway. Get something with really small sized bores such as something that takes freak inserts or maybe the TechT insert kit.

I've seen very little paint that has been smaller than .685. Must be a local thing? Most of mine is great in .689. The shaft kit is great, but there are tons of great barrels its all preferance, paint to barrel match as long as the barrel is honed well to match its front is the only issue I've seen. That's the problem I had with my freak kit the back and front didn't line up as well as other barrels so I moved on.

Did anyone ever successfully bore out a shaft barrel so it could accept freak inserts?

Best of both worlds!

I'd like to see someone offer this service on many barrels, I'd love to match an insert kit to my ramrod barrel or stock spyder barrels on my random tweaker guns.


2 things RC:
1. Egos still have to be "broken in" its kinda like overspray on an x7 its basically the marker getting the excess worn off and running smoother, but unlike an x7 DO NOT polish the internals.

2.I don't think the deadlywind barrel has an oring on it so take the oring off the stock barrel to keep the dw barrel from coming loose while shooting.


1. Yes markers do still need a break in period. A lot of it is to get the orings worn in to match the internal dimensions better. Is it a must, no. But if you tune before letting them break in, you will most likely need to retune after the break in period.

2. The oring being added will not only help keep it from coming off, but help keep it from getting stuck on.

Enjoy the new gun, most every upgrade offered for an ego is not an upgrade, but an aftermarket replacement.

Roswell Crash
08-07-2010, 07:55 AM
I've seen very little paint that has been smaller than .685. Must be a local thing? Most of mine is great in .689. The shaft kit is great, but there are tons of great barrels its all preferance.

Interesting, I'm sure if I see a cheap pair of backs I'll pick them up, that way I can use both and get a feel for them, I'm buying the GEO 2 so It wouldn't hurt to have a complete Shaft kit. I only bought the 14" Deadlywind so I still want the 16" Shaft front, I'm keeping my eyes on the forums in the UK and E-bay for cheap shaft parts so I can complete the kit.

Thanks for your input.

user1
08-07-2010, 12:06 PM
not to :deadhorse: but like everyone has said above the ego 10 needs nothing as far as upgrades.

As for the loader Im a new convert to the rotor, and have to say it's the best loader ever.

For barrels anything that takes a freak back will have good accuracy, as for a longer shot best option is the apex tip.

The geo 2 sounds solid from all the reviews and videos I have seen, I m sure you will love it.

tigar19
08-07-2010, 01:30 PM
Interesting, I'm sure if I see a cheap pair of backs I'll pick them up, that way I can use both and get a feel for them, I'm buying the GEO 2 so It wouldn't hurt to have a complete Shaft kit. I only bought the 14" Deadlywind so I still want the 16" Shaft front, I'm keeping my eyes on the forums in the UK and E-bay for cheap shaft parts so I can complete the kit.

Thanks for your input.

FYI, the Geo2 comes with the new shaft 4 barrel. The back of a shaft 4 barrel is male on both ends (longer control bore), therefore they are not compatible with shaft 3 barrels.

Keep this in mind when you purchase your shaft barrel kit.

And no, the shaft 4 barrel kit has not yet been released. :)

DUFF MUFFIN
08-07-2010, 08:36 PM
I've seen very little paint that has been smaller than .685. Must be a local thing? Most of mine is great in .689. The shaft kit is great, but there are tons of great barrels its all preferance, paint to barrel match as long as the barrel is honed well to match its front is the only issue I've seen. That's the problem I had with my freak kit the back and front didn't line up as well as other barrels so I moved on.
Must be a regional thing, everyone around here uses .679-.685 90% of the time...

Roswell Crash
08-07-2010, 08:47 PM
FYI, the Geo2 comes with the new shaft 4 barrel. The back of a shaft 4 barrel is male on both ends (longer control bore), therefore they are not compatible with shaft 3 barrels.

Keep this in mind when you purchase your shaft barrel kit.

And no, the shaft 4 barrel kit has not yet been released. :)

Yeah I read about that, sounds like they did some good work with the Shaft 4 I can't wait to get my hands on it, I'm going to call PE direct see if I can't get them to give me the full Shaft kit with the GEO 2 when I order it (obviously paying extra). It should be a standard option with the marker to have the full barrel kit included or just the standard back, makes no sense.

Hoot
08-07-2010, 09:23 PM
Sadly they won't be able to do that as its not yet in production. Will be in a few months though as I heard from a PE tech today.

They don't include it all because when the SL versions come out, they DO include it all. If they made it an option for the basic, the SL would have little point.

FurbyTFR
08-07-2010, 11:06 PM
Just because I'm a snob that way, I put in a Tadao Yakuza board in my Ego 10 as well as Kila Detents. The Yakuza is a nice upgrade from the stock board for a couple of reasons, but it's expensive, and the stock board is fine for 99.99999% of players out there...the Kilas I went with from a reliability standpoint...they don't wear out like rubber nubbins do.

Roswell Crash
08-08-2010, 09:40 AM
Sadly they won't be able to do that as its not yet in production. Will be in a few months though as I heard from a PE tech today.

They don't include it all because when the SL versions come out, they DO include it all. If they made it an option for the basic, the SL would have little point.

GEO's don't have an SL version though do they?

Still seems silly, the whole point of the SL's are they have newer upgrades and a sneak peak of what's going to be in the next marker. It's like you can buy the Shaft upgrade kit, but they wont include it with the marker and just charge you extra. And It's not even easy to get a hold of the upgrade kit to complete your barrel set. You have to buy the two backs and then find the 16".

They even say in the advertisements that anodizing isn't an exact science so colours can differer slightly... So give us an option to get the complete kit we wont have that problem. I'm pretty sure 2 backs and a front isn't the reason people buy the SL's.

Roswell Crash
08-10-2010, 10:44 AM
Can anyone suggest the best way to run an APEX with my EGO?

What Kinda barrels or adapters are available, I had a little search but didn't come up with much.

tigar19
08-10-2010, 10:58 AM
Can anyone suggest the best way to run an APEX with my EGO?

What Kinda barrels or adapters are available, I had a little search but didn't come up with much.

THe best way would be to buy just the Apex tip because the BT barrel it comes with is crap.

Some barrels come Apex ready (i.e. Lapco, AA Freak Front). Some people use electrical tape to wrap around their barrel tips for the Apex to attach to. However, I've heard this makes it very difficult to rotate the Apex without having to take it off first which takes away some of its uniqueness.

Barrel Apex Mod - Youtube LINK (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7q5KFJozC8&playnext_from=TL&videos=VWGsPF4jY9o)
DW Barrel Apex Mod - LINK (http://www.x7og.net/other-barrel-systems/25127-apex-deadly-wind-mod.html)

Roswell Crash
08-10-2010, 01:50 PM
Cheers tiger, that DW mod looks good, and I just found an adapter that will work with my hammerhead for the Phenom.

Melonhead
08-10-2010, 03:01 PM
I used the tape mod for the Apex and it was able to turn just fine. You just need to be really precise with the amount of tape you use. You can also just lube the tape with some vaseline or similar product to get it to rotate as well.

Hoot
08-10-2010, 03:04 PM
Yep, tape mod works great. If you don't want to do the tape mod, look into a Lapco Assault or CP Tactical barrels with Apex tip adapters.

KILLSWITCH
08-11-2010, 12:44 AM
Did anyone ever successfully bore out a shaft barrel so it could accept freak inserts?

Best of both worlds!

tigar I believe someone started to do this and I might have it done to one of my watermelon backs:thumbs up:

MCB Tonsixer Freak boring service (http://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/mcb-reviews/130347-tonsixer-freak-boring-service.html#post1425567)

BS139
08-11-2010, 12:55 AM
Um...saw somewhere the mix of Hammerhead spin and Apex spin is bad juju.

Tigar do all A/A Freak tips work with the Apex?

B.

tigar19
08-11-2010, 08:03 AM
Um...saw somewhere the mix of Hammerhead spin and Apex spin is bad juju.

Tigar do all A/A Freak tips work with the Apex?

B.

Ya mon, you don't-a want-a bad juju hangin round yo mojo:thumbs up:

No sir. It has to be an Apex Ready AA Front.

Like this one --> LINK (http://www.e-paintball.com/Smart-Parts-Apex-Compatible-All-American-Front-p-19701.html)

WOW, I tried to find one for sale and could not find one! I wonder if Smart Parts filing Chapter 7 has anything to do with this.